Sitting at a coffee shop having wan tan mee, a girl with her wrinkled paper asking for donations comes along table by table. She is politely dismissed and she moves on to the next table...
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Mantis (to Oogway): Eh. Lets say you were out on a date, with a girl, would you give some money?
Oogway: You mean the donation just now?
Mantis: Yeah. Lets say you were having a meal with a girl, it's the first or second date, and someone came along asking for a donation, would you dismiss the person like just now or give some money?
Oogway: I'd probably give la.
Mantis: You'd give some money?
Oogway: Yeah, I'd give. Just to not look bad. I'd rather give 5bucks and look good than create a negative impression since it's still the early stages.
Viper: Eyer.... But that's so hypocritical.
Oogway: Yeah... But at least i'm being an honest hypocrite.
Mantis: Honest to us la, but not to her.
Viper: Thats what I can't stand about guys. In the beginning they portray themselves as something their not, but sooner or later their true colours all come out, and then they don't see why a girl is upset or angry, and put its back onto the girl saying that she's putting expectations on him, when it was the guy who set the false expectation in the first place. Urgh.
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wahahaa this is so true... typical scenario. I feel to an extent everyone would wanna look good on their first date. But i guess it's the person where you can NOT care about first look who will go down the road with you.
awwwww the neverending argument of male vs female. and females are always so deluded that their man are gonna be the same a year later compared to their first date! be fair, its an unrealistic expectation either way. should just be thankful they still have their shower after the third date :P HAHA
Never knew that there was this big schism between the male and female. However, I reckon this is the problem with going out on dates with people you have never known before or unfamiliar with. So to avoid getting dissapointed either way...get to know each other as friends first on a more casual basis. Anybody smart enough can pick out an actor or an actress.
yeah, i agree with anon. be friends first.
and just to speak in defense of guys, not all of us are as hypocritical as Oogway. He's pathetic - and he had the gall to proclaim proudly that he is an honest hypocrite!!!
Shel: It works both ways, guy-girl or girl-guy. Like how on a first date you would chew properly, not slurp and end up with sauce on your nicely pressed skirt, wear a skirt, put on make up, blow dry the hair, comb the hair, have a second look at how the hair looks, keep the PMS in check, not curse (if you do that is), not display unlady-like behaviour etc etc etc. If we all acted like how we do at home in front of the tv with family- the world would be a less-crowded place. That's my honest (and admittedly somewhat hypocritical take).
To anon: Even if you're friends first- I suspect things change when it becomes romantic anyway. Expectations of/about each other would change. Btw, the stakes are SO much higher that way..
LMO: You're entitled to think of it as pathetic (altho your comment as aimed at the person, not the statement mind you), but ultimately its an honest answer from any (typical) decent guy who's trying his best while sweating profusely under his shirt to just NOT mess things up.
So that maybe someday she'll like him enough that she won't mind the bad breath, snoring, etc etc..
Ok, lemme see if I can sort through the comments and explain where I’m coming from.
When meeting someone for the first time, you want to make a good impression, duh. It’s only natural. So you show more of the good parts of yourself, than your not so good parts. To me that’s okay. But don’t create fake goodness that doesn’t exist- that I’m not okay with.
It’s not about discovering traits that come out over time (burping, not bathing, wearing a push up bra, farting or whatever). I don’t have a problem with that, because I feel those are surface things that are not so important. It’s the beneath the surface stuff that really counts. Like, discovering lies. To me there’s a difference between someone who puts more effort into his/her appearance and someone who gives a donation insincerely. I would prefer discovering in time an honest burper, than a lying gentleman.
I do agree with what was said about being friends first, but i've discovered even people you think you know really well can turn out to be people you never knew at all.
Again, I must add this disclaimer: Yes, you can be a person that thinks its okay to do such a thing; you can disagree with me saying there is no difference between surface/non surface. That’s you.
This is my opinion, how I feel about it and just something I’d like people to think about.
If some day in the far off future I were to meet someone, and later on discover that he was dishonest or whatever, it wouldn’t be an ultimate reason to call it off; just that I would be sad and disappointed. And trust me, it’s not a nice feeling. So, I’m saying it would be better for girls (me) to not go through that disappointment if it could be avoided, by people being who they really are from the start. That’s all.
Can't a girl dream?
=)
PS: Sam, I dunno if the “you” is supposed to be me, but you should know that I seriously do not put THAT much effort into getting ready hahaha… I probably wouldn’t wear a skirt, I don’t blow dry my hair and I simply iron baju. But I do chew properly, I burp and say excuse me and I don’t slurp up my soup, so yours is a bad example (because to me its surface as explained above), and doesn’t really equal the scenario at the coffee shop. IMHO.
Let the wise one, who for generations has been sought to shower his wisdom-ness to all mere mortals, impart his pearls of wisdom-ness. Being true to yourself is essential in life. A facade(of any form) is a lie,in the short term it builds wonders but with the test of time the castle fall and we are left with a rubble. Impressions? Yes everyone would like to give a good one but there is a difference in appearance and your belief system. You donate because you believe in it and part of you wants to help this way. Appearance and dressing is more of a form respect for people and oneself. So basically for the wise one, i believe in bein true at all times because time will reveal you anyway. In the example above so if you gave a donation to look good and give a good impression, how bout the next time and the time after when this people come up again for money? Do you continue the 'lie'? Then 'who' is being portrayed to people the nice donator or the burper?......Thats 10bucks for every person who read this comment. Please pay it to Shelby who shall then humbly pass it to me in my heavenly realms of wisdon-ness. Thank you. He has spoken.....
sori - my comment was phrase wrongly. wat i meant by pathetic is tht he was proud that he is a hypocrite.
all of us have short-comings. no one is perfect. but to be proud of it is quite sad as then, the person will never improve.
so sam, u are confessing that you are the Oogway in this post?
Well, i think it's natural for a guy to do that. It's also very natural for both guys and girls trying to do the RIGHT THINGs to please each other no matter what stage of 'relationship' but there's a LIMIT to it.
In tis case, i can still tolerate. Sooner or later, da true colours of a person can be seen after some time.
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